RASA: I am still trying to work out my Nirvana with fear and trembling. All my respect to you. I am still right now praying about what God wants me to do. Does God want me to accept Nirvana -the state you speak of - or does God want me to continue redemptive sufferings? You see, I dedicated my life to walk in the footsteps of Jesus all the way. And that meant make the "heroic act" which means giving up all the 'merits' I accrue in my life - for the Souls in Purgatory.

SWAMI G: My buddhist name is (karma sonam wangmo) which means she who dedicates all her actions to the good of mankind ...... there is a way to do it but it doesn't mean continuing in suffering ....

RASA: I have had a wonderful ministry to them for many years. Yes, I suffer a lot but there are highlights and I live for those highlights. Now you and others have presented to me a case that I am attached to my sufferings. So I am considering this, to see if God wants me to change my path, so see if it is time to change this. God told me on several occasions the following,

"I CAN PUT YOU IN THAT PLACE OF NONSUFFERING NONDUALISM IN A SPLIT SECOND IF YOU WANT IT. DO YOU WANT IT?'

SWAMI G: There is a way that this may be explained ....... it came as I was sitting having dinner .... like a bolt of lightning (so to speak) ..... Do you think that God would offer you a lesser thing ?

Do you not believe that Christ's suffering on the cross was effective ? For he paid the penalty once and for ALL .... Also When did Christ go to minister to those within the hell realms ? was it during his suffering on the cross or was it afterwards ? it was after that time ..... IF you know how to get out of suffering and have passed through it THEN you can give and proclaim the GOOD NEWS ..... for THEN you know the effective path OUT of it ......

RASA: I have been hesitating, considering that I was working for souls, and suffering was the greatest way of gaining merit and having it transferred to other souls.

SWAMI G: Christ has already done it ...... or do you accept his mission as only partially successful ? We suffer in order to understand suffering but then there is the time to step out of it .......

RASA: Most of the suffering I endure is ridicule, rejection, misunderstanding, slander and the like. It is mental, emotional, spiritual pain. Now my question to myself is this:

'HOW CAN I GAIN MERIT IF SUFFERING CEASES?

SWAMI G: By TRUSTING that Christ and God are LOVE ..... He came to do away with the sacrifice .... ALL sacrifice ....

RASA: HOW CAN I HELP THESE SOULS IF MY SUFFERING STOPS?

SWAMI G: Again Christ has already paid the price ...... give them the Good News ...... they need have no fear ..... the way is open to those who believe and accept and open their hearts in Love ......

RASA: WHAT WILL I HAVE TO GIVE SOULS IN PURGATORY AND SOULS THAT MIGHT GO TO HELL?

SWAMI G: The Truth ...... that what keeps them in hell is their own mental holdings that it is their own mindsets that keep a sense of separation in place..... with a return to Love guess what ? against Love there is NO LAW ...... price is paid ......

RASA: IS THE PLACE OF PEACE YOU ARE IN, PEACE, NONSUFFERING AND NIRVANA, DOES THIS PLACE GAIN MERIT?

SWAMI G: Is Knowing God as IS not all the merit One may have ..... it is where ALL Merit stems from ...... It is Living within the Light that is beyond all limitational lights and shadows .....

RASA: THE PEACE YOU ARE IN, IS IT TRANSFERRED TO SOULS IN PURGATORY AND IS IT APPLICABLE TO SOULS WHO MIGHT GO TO HELL?

SWAMI G: Those who come around a SatGuru find Peace .... minds begin to still ..... they are able to hear the Truth that unlocks all bondage ....

RASA: YOUR STATE, DOES IT BRING OTHERS TO THE SAME STATE WHO ARE ALREADY ADVANCED OR DOES IT ALSO HELP THOSE WHO ARE HEADED FOR HELL? AND THOSE IN PURGATORY?'

SWAMI G: Truth cuts all bondages ..... Light ends the shadow fears ...... Love opens the doors.....

RASA: You said to accept this state. I am thinking does God want me to do this now?

SWAMI G: Ask within ------ if God has held this out to you then why is it rejected ? who is holding the suffering in place when God has offered Peace ?

RASA: If my path is to accept this state right now, then I do accept it. Then I relinquish any attachment to suffering and anything of my past. I only need to know that this is right for me, and that I can still continue helping souls. That is all I have been trying to find out and I know it has been a struggle for both of us. It is as simple as that.

SWAMI G: Ask within ...... Knock and the door will be Opened ...... Seek and you shall Find ..... Where two or three are gathered in My Name there I AM in the midst of them ......

Do you believe this ? if so .......... ask Christ Now ......

RASA: YES, IT IS BEGINNING TO MAKE SENSE TO MY BRAIN.

SWAMI G: Good ... !!!!

RASA: YOU SEE, I HAD TO UNDERSTAND THIS NIRVANA THING IN MY OWN LINGO AND EXPERIENCE ~ TO APPLY IT TO MY OWN FRAMEWORK OF CONSCIOUSNESS. NOW HERE IS WHAT COMES TO MIND. IN THE PRAYER FOR THE DIVINE STIGMATA, WHICH ST. GERTRUDE THE GREAT AND ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI MADE ABOUT THE SAME TIME, (THE 13TH CENTURY) AND WHICH I IMITATED, THEY BOTH PRAYED FOR THE EXPERIENCE AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE ~ JOY AND THE GRIEF~ OF THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST WHICH CAUSED HIM TO SUFFER AND DIE SUCH A TERRIBLE DEATH FOR SINNERS. NOW I DID PRAY FOR THIS AND RECEIVED IT, AND THE FIRST EXPERIENCE WAS THE GRIEF. OH YES, THE GRIEF CAME BECAUSE BOTH THE SAHASRARA AND HEART CHAKRA BURNED UP ALMOST COMPLETELY (PROBABLY ALL THE CHAKRAS IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO) IN THE INTENSITY OF THIS EXPERIENCE. THIS CHAKRA BURNOUT EFFECTIVELY ANNIHILATED ALL MY GRATUITOUS GIFTS - THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BY WHICH I EXPERIENCED THE PRESENCE OF GOD, AND BY WHICH I COMMUNICATED WITH GOD. I WAS THEN PUT INTO 'THE SHALLOWS AND WASTES OF HUMAN SENSE' FOR MOST OF EIGHTEEN YEARS, AND THIS SEPARATION FROM GOD (THROUGH NO SIN BUT A GRACE) WAS THE AWFUL PURGATORY OR 'GRIEF' WITHIN THE GRACE.

SWAMI G: Yes many of us pass through this phase ..... grief - pain - suffering ....

RASA: IN THE YEAR 2000 GOD SENT ME MUKTANANDA TO THE ASCENT BACK UP AGAIN INTO ILLUMINATION. MUKTANANDA TOLD ME MY SUFFERING WAS OVER. HOWEVER, THERE FOLLOWED SOME HORRENDOUS EARTHLY TIME AND SPACE PROBLEMS THAT PLUNGED ME INTO TURMOIL, AFTER THE THREE MONTHS OF BLISS WITH MUKTANANDA. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 'IN BLISS' BUT YET ONCE AGAIN, I WAS NOT.

SWAMI G: It is easy to take back the suffering mind when it is what has been ones identity for so many years ......

RASA: NOW IN THE LAST YEAR NITYANANDA AND I BECAME SOULMATES, AND HE FILLED ME WITH ALL HIS GRACES, AND EVEN RAMANA MAHARSHI CAME TO ME RECENTLY. (I BELIEVE YOU ARE AN EXTENSION OF HIM AND HIS GRACE OR THE APPEARENCE OF HIM IN THE FLESH.) THESE WERE UNBELIEVABLE EXPERIENCES, WITH THESE GREAT BEINGS. WHY WERE ALL THE YOGA MASTERS COMING TO ME, NOT JESUS?

SWAMI G: Maybe you weren't yet ready to get beyond the identifications with Jesus the Christ as being still on the cross ...... He is RISEN ..... the cross was the limited time ..... Risen Christ is for Eternity ....

RASA: WHAT WAS JESUS DOING IN ALL THIS? WELL THERE ARE TWO THINGS GOING ON. IT IS HERE, BUT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW I HAVE BEEN LACKING IN ABILITY TO TAKE HOLD OF IT - NOT HAVING THE UNDERSTANDING THAT GOES WITH IT. EIGHTEEN YEARS IN PURGATORY AND JUST RECENTLY AWAKENING AGAIN, THE BRAIN GOT CRUSTY. ALL OF THESE MASTERS HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO ME OF BLISS, NIRVANA, AND I AM THINKING, 'SO WHERE IS IT?' AFTER THEIR VISITATIONS BLISS WORE OFF QUICKLY, AS IT WAS THEIR BLISS, NOT YET TOTALLY MINE.

SWAMI G: because the identification with suffering and holiness was being seen rather than going beyond to the Risen Savior ....... you have been Redeemed already ..... Surrender the suffering ..... let it go and fall into the arms of Love .....

RASA: THE NIRVANA IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN OF THE STIGMATA GRIEF - THAT WHICH I KEPT ASKING JESUS ABOUT. 'HEY LORD, YOU GAVE ME THE GRIEF. OK, I GET IT. IT IS SEPARATION. IT IS SINKING DOWN INTO THE SENSES. IT IS AWFUL........BUT WHERE IS THAT SUPERNATURAL LOVE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE ME?' AND SO, NOW I THINK I SEE IT, THAT IT IS NIRVANA, BLISS, WHICH IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, AND IT BEGAN IN 2000 AND I SHOULD BE FULLY REALIZING IT ANY DAY NOW.

 

SWAMI G: Isn't it time to ask for the Resurrection and Joy and Freedom ? Isn't it time to finally ACCEPT that Gift of Life ? it is time to step into the FULLNESS OF GOD ......

RASA: THE REASON JESUS OR GOD HAS BEEN SENDING ME THESE YOGA MASTERS IS BECAUSE THEY EXEMPLIFY THAT STATE - NIRVIKALPA, NIRVANA, MOKSHA - WHICH CHRISTIANITY DOES NOT EXPLAIN TOO WELL.

SWAMI G: This is WHY i use the modality and symbology of hindu rather than christian ..... it is simply because it has more open ----- able to be accessed symbology ....... that is all ...... doesn't mean it isn't available in christianity ........ it IS as there is only ONE Divine Essence .... only ONE Absolute .... Christ spoke of LIBERATION _____ NOW ...... but His words and message have gotten bogged down and all but lost amongst the dogmatic rhetoric of misguided "churchology" .....

RASA: YOGA IS MORE EQUIPPED TO SEND ONE TO THE BLISS, WHERE CHRISTIANITY CENTERS ON REDEMPTIVE SUFFERING. JESUS WHOLE LIFE EXEMPLIFIED MINISTRY AND PAIN, THEN DEATH.

SWAMI G: See I have always gone beyond that and seen the RESURRECTION ..... this is the Good News... There is NO DEATH ----- There is NOTHING TO FEAR ..... The Kingdom of Heaven is AT HAND NOW ----- what has this to do with continued suffering ?

RASA: SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CROSS THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACE OF NITYANANDA OR RAMANA MAHARSHI YOU THINK 'BLISS', NOT TORTURE. OF COURSE THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT JESUS DID NOT HAVE BLISS, BUT HE IS A SYMBOL OF HOLY SUFFERING, AS ARE ALL HIS SAINTS. AND THAT IS WHY I THINK I NEEDED TO STUDY YOGA AND GET DEEPLY INTO IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD SERVE HERE AS THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN.

SEE, I HAVE BEEN HUNG UP ON UNDERSTANDING. NONE OF THE SAINTS WHO HAD THE STIGMATA WERE JOYFUL. PADRE PIO WAS CRANKY TILL THE DAY HE DIED. HE WAS IN DARK NIGHTS CONSTANTLY. DITTO ST. FRANCIS AND ST. CATHERINE OF SIENNA AND ST. LYDWINE OF SHIEDAM, AND TERESA NEWMANN AND ALL THE OTHERS. NONE OF THEM WERE JOYFUL ~ THEY WERE CHRONIC SUFFERS WHO HAD ECSTASIES IN BETWEEN. SO THEY WERE MY TEMPLATE. I WALKED IN THEIR SANDALS.

SWAMI G: Well it is time to move forward and Allow Christ to give you New Sandals ...... are you asking to know HIS path ------ or the path of saints ? Better to ask for the Fullness of His Knowledge ....

RASA: BUT GOD IN GOD'S MERCY I THINK MADE ME MEET YOU IN THE FLESH TO CONFRONT THIS STUBBORN HOLDING ON I HAD TO THE PAST AND SAY,

'HEY~~THIS IS IT. LOOK HOW GOD IS GRACING YOU. SO THE OTHER STIGMATISTS PERPETUALLY SUFFERED AND THEREFORE WERE CRANKY AND MISERABLE. BUT HERE, YOU HAVE THIS GRACE BY THE YOGIS, AND YOU WILL NOW BE LIFTED INTO 'RESURRECTION POWER.' YES, CHRISTIANS DO RECOGNIZE THIS, BUT IT IS RARE. GLORY IS SOMETHING THEY REFER TO, BUT IT COMES AND GOES QUICKLY.

SWAMI G: It IS God !!!!! Does God come and go ????? NO !!! God or Absolute is ETERNAL and UNCHANGING ------- mind comes and goes ..... this is why one must go beyond mind to enter into the Holy of Holies where the Unchanging Absolute ALONE IS ......

RASA: AS FAR AS REDEMPTIVE SUFFERING, IT IS ALWAYS VOLUNTARY. SO THAT IF A SOUL LETS GO OF IT, IT DOES NOT CONTINUE. I COULD NOT LET GO OF IT UNTIL I COULD BELIEVE GOD WOULD WANT ME TO. SO I WILL ASK JUST ONCE MORE TO BE SURE:

SWAMI G: Any suffering is voluntary ..... we (while in mental attachments and aversions) are the gods of created and sustained suffering .....

RASA: HOW DOES ONE MINISTER TO SOULS IN THIS STATE? YOU SAID ALL MERIT COMES OUT OF IT.....AND SO, WHEN ONE IS IN NIRVANA, THEY ARE ABLE TO SAVE SOULS FROM DARKNESS, BRING THEM TO ENLIGHTENMENT, AND PREVENT SINNERS FROM GOING TO HELL? AND ALSO SEND LIGHT INTO PURGATORY AND RAISE THEM UP? I AM JUST MAKING SURE AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS DECISION HAS TO BE MADE, AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A LIFETIME SUFFERER HERE.

SWAMI G: Can one bring LIGHT to those in hell through more pain or by Being the Light of Living Truth? It is Only That which is Free that can offer Freedom ......

RASA: AND BECAUSE NO CHRISTIAN DID THIS BEFORE THAT I KNOW OF -THAT IS, HAD THE STIGMATA AND THEN GAINED NIRVANA - IT IS A TRICKY SITUATION. WITH NO EXAMPLE OR TEMPLATE ONE QUAKES IN THEIR BOOTS AT THE THOUGHT OF IT.

SWAMI G: Think Christ ----- Christ-ian ..... Christ was the Example ----- the way show-er ..... Don't stop 3/4's of the way ...... Why stop at the suffering ? then you make of Christ's life a denial of the most important part ....... RESSURECTION TO ETERNAL LIFE -------- Against Love and God or Absolute is LOVE ----- within this there is no law ........ the Law is for those in separation ....... come out of separation .....

RASA: THAT IS WHERE I AM AT RIGHT NOW AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, KINDNESS AND AFFIRMATION AS I RECEIVE THE ULTIMATE REWARD OF GOD'S HOLY JOY.

SWAMI G: In order to receive it you must be willing to open the Heart and the Mind and the hands ...... be willing to let go of the suffering persona ...... Ask Christ ..... Christ is your model and your SatGuru ... He is your Light out of darkness ...... Don't take my word for it ....... Go within ..... Open up ..... Ask for the Truth ......

MUCH LOVE, RASA VON WERDER

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